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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.12.09 13:30:27 -
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This is what happens when people get used to a thing that's way to lucrative to be balanced, a bunch of rationalizing about how "but it was good and balanced and then ONE PERSON complained and it got nerfed!". It happened with high sec lvl 5s and it's happening now with FW missions.
What should happen is that people form small pvp fit + logi "mission farming small gangs" to attack these missions. FW missions are supposed to elicit pvp responses, that's why they produce a beacon visible to everyone in the system (CCP wants people to attack you and for you to be able to attack people who are PVEing in your space, it's why FW missions always take you into or near enemy controlled space).
And that's why they pay out so much LP, because they are supposed to be balanced by potential ship loss. But when the ship loss was nothing more than a 50 mil Bomber, the balance got out of whack. Even when the LP market was flooded AND your faction is at a low tier you could make 2-3oo mil per hour (ie 4- 6 stealth bombers worth of wealth).
I only had time to dabble in a couple missions yesterday, but yea, my caracal got shredded and I didn't even dare going back and getting one of my purifiers. This is a good change, it was too easy before. And some people will adapt. Many will not and whine or find some other broken pve to make isk from.
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.12.09 15:25:34 -
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Valentine al-Askari wrote:
whats gona happen is people will just stop fw altogether
That's possible for many, as many folks have FW alts not for being a part of FW, but simply for the unbalanced wealth generation (same as incursion alts). When CCP balanced Incursions the 1st time whole incursion communities died. Some people can't bother to PVE unless the PVE is so unbalanced it's crazy profitable. I call them "fair weather PVErs" and i don't care if they stop doing something, they are nothing more than the parasites of the PVE community.
PVE should be balanced around it's purpose (supplying the game with things like items, isk, and other forms of content) as well as around people who actually enjoy PVE. It should not be balanced around people who just want to make quick game-wealth and "damn the consequences to the game" types. |
Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.12.09 22:03:27 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Valentine al-Askari wrote:it's classic one person complanes really loudly about how something should change and it gets nuked it form orbit and misses the target No it's more like a classic "everyone was doing this to a ridiculous degree after telling CCP years ago that they were going to abuse the hell out of this so they finally made the needed change to fix something that never should have been so abusable in the first place".
Like I said, High Sec lvl 5 missions all over again.  |
Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.12.11 13:24:31 -
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Wow, here comes people with a defense of stealth bomber isk printing in what are supposed to be lvl 4 missions...
...This thread is officially a "Malcanis Moment" (because of the quote he stole form Upton Sinclair ,that I then stole from both of them lol):
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" |
Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.12.11 13:42:33 -
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Lan Wang wrote:im trying to find out why you seem so entitled to use a 50mil firgate for lvl 4's when everyone else has to use battleships and above regardless of the space.
50 mil frigate sized ships to make MORE than a battleship does in pirate level 4s in npc nullsec btw.
Self interest is so blinding, people can't see the truth, can't admit that they were on a gravy train and gravy trains end.
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